A status report #2
Thank you again for you enthusiastic comments. It is good to see that you care about our products and have strong opinions. Otherwise you would not bother ;-) I read all the comments but I’m not gonna go and answer them all … sorry for that … I simply cannot.
Let me repeat again what we’ll do. It seems some of you have difficulties understanding what I try to say. My fault.
770 support
770 is a fully supported Nokia product. As an example, we released a new official OS2006 version for the Nokia 770 only yesterday. So it is also getting better. Also, a new OS2006 SDK was released yesterday. And as I said in my previous post, we follow the situation as we go on and keep on supporting the product.
A developer version of OS2007 for the Nokia 770
We will not make an official OS2007 version on 770 available. Instead, we are in the process of making a developer version, as promised, based on your feedback. For some of you, it seems to be not enough, though … well, I’m sorry for that. We’ll follow up how that developer version will go, and then decide how to move on. But no plans no make a full commercial OS2007 running on 770.
Future features and improvements -- focus on N800
Thank you for your suggestions on how to improve our products. Some of the suggestions are already being worked on. In this competitive environment of consumer products, working with partners and competitors, we cannot provide a total transparency to what we’ll do. Therefore, I cannot tell you all the details -- before I can.
The N800 will get better, more internet services will be supported, and I feel very excited about the future ahead of us. Competitors are emerging, and more and more people understand and support our original vision . Let’s make internet mobile and put it into our pocket.
When to release – early or late?
As I said in my previous post, expect to see the software on N800 getting better and better. I’ve already seen it in our internal releases. Based on our earlier experiences we decided to release it in CES, get feedback from users, and with the help of communities, improve the software. So we released the product now because N800 is already a very good and usable product, and it is getting better. There are always people who would like to do it the other way – and then others would say “just release and we’ll suggest what to fix and help you”. Once again – you cannot make everybody 100% happy. But that’s life!
Let me repeat again what we’ll do. It seems some of you have difficulties understanding what I try to say. My fault.
770 support
770 is a fully supported Nokia product. As an example, we released a new official OS2006 version for the Nokia 770 only yesterday. So it is also getting better. Also, a new OS2006 SDK was released yesterday. And as I said in my previous post, we follow the situation as we go on and keep on supporting the product.
A developer version of OS2007 for the Nokia 770
We will not make an official OS2007 version on 770 available. Instead, we are in the process of making a developer version, as promised, based on your feedback. For some of you, it seems to be not enough, though … well, I’m sorry for that. We’ll follow up how that developer version will go, and then decide how to move on. But no plans no make a full commercial OS2007 running on 770.
Future features and improvements -- focus on N800
Thank you for your suggestions on how to improve our products. Some of the suggestions are already being worked on. In this competitive environment of consumer products, working with partners and competitors, we cannot provide a total transparency to what we’ll do. Therefore, I cannot tell you all the details -- before I can.
The N800 will get better, more internet services will be supported, and I feel very excited about the future ahead of us. Competitors are emerging, and more and more people understand and support our original vision . Let’s make internet mobile and put it into our pocket.
When to release – early or late?
As I said in my previous post, expect to see the software on N800 getting better and better. I’ve already seen it in our internal releases. Based on our earlier experiences we decided to release it in CES, get feedback from users, and with the help of communities, improve the software. So we released the product now because N800 is already a very good and usable product, and it is getting better. There are always people who would like to do it the other way – and then others would say “just release and we’ll suggest what to fix and help you”. Once again – you cannot make everybody 100% happy. But that’s life!
posted by Ari Jaaksi at 3:19 AM
63 Comments:
Ari
That seems clear enough. Let the complaints commence... ;)
Might I just go slightly OT but it does relate to your focus on quality:
It would be really good if we could (the community) could see more Nokia activity in the Maemo Bugzilla. Long standing - and seemingly trivial - bugs go ignored for 6 months at a time, see bug #579 as just one example.
The lack of Nokia involvement (and by this, I mean _real_ feedback not simply "Forwarding to upstream maintainer" and then nothing more for 6 months) would really help to reinforce your commitment to the older products and operating systems.
Without Nokia involvement, the Maemo Bugzilla system takes on the appearance of a black hole and this lack of feedback adds to the disquiet regarding continued Nokia support - most bugs relate to 770/OS2006 - and will lead to comments that some bugs will never be fixed (if that's the case, fine, just tell us by leaving a comment rather than ignoring them - we did after all go to the trouble of finding them for you!) The latest release for OS2006 (3.2006.49-2) has actually added to this feeling of bugs not being fixed as this release apparently resolved a couple of WiFi bugs that few (if any) users seems to be affected by, and it did not fix any bugs that are affecting users.
I agree with decard. The latest version of OS2006 did not address anything of top importance for many of us. I seems like an attempt to give the impression that you are still supporting 770 while in fact not much credible effort is going there.
Dr. Jaaksi,
Thanks for addressing our comments... Also N800 seems like a good product I might eventually upgrade to.
But, here are couple of questions for which we (770 owners) will appreciate direct answers:
1) Are we ever going to see a completely stable, bug-free version of an OS on our 770s? This questions how much you are really committed to support 770.
2) Are we ever going to get updates on the licenced software such as Opera and Flash?
3) Are we ever going to get access to lower level drivers, or at least Nokia will do the work for us, so that we can enable capabilities like bluetooth headphone support?
Thanks,
Another question here...
When released both 770 and N800 software were "beta" versions. Will they ever get out of being betas?
I understand when google does that with their services since they are free, but may of us want to have a final product sometime in these products lifetime when we pay 400 Euros.
I agree that Nokia has no obligation to provide OS2007 for the 770. But clearly you are alienating and offending your customers by refusing to do so. I believe this is a bad business decision. I am one of those people who expected to buy an N800 but am now hesitating because of the upgrade policy for the 770.
How about a paid upgrade? Figure out what it costs to backport 2007 to the 770 (including licensing costs for Opera, etc.). I'd be more than willing to pay, say $50 for a 2007 upgrade for my 770. Of course updates would then be free until the next "major" upgrade (2008?).
Supporting previous hardware versions is a problem that's been solved by most other manufacturers. Usually this means paid upgrades. It isn't easy but I think it's necessary if you want the Internet Tablet to succeed in the long run.
Deckard,
We are actually figuring out ways to utilize our bugzilla better.
Others, no paid upgrades to 770. Sorry. Go now and download the latest for free. And really, let's take an example so you can understand us better: N800 is faster and has more memory than 770. Yet we struggle to make Flash player work perfectly on it. On 770 it would be even more difficult. Also, with closed proprietary components (some multimedia, certain apps ...) we have limited possibilities to do any optimizations. Even if we wanted.
I hate to ask again, but I eagerly await an answer. Will there be support for additional codecs (xvid, mp4, h264, divx) as well as hardware acceleration? Or time spent with the Mplayer developers, as having a fully open media player is of great importance to a lot of us =) Dropped frames on a manufacture provided demo video is kind of disapointing!
saucey,
We will improve multimedia performance and add codecs. However, the schedule is not confiremd yet. (See my lates post on why some stuff is like that ....)
Ari - Thank you for maintaining this weblog and responding to our complaints.
I'm sure you can understand our concerns about the future of this platform. We've discussed (perhaps to excess) the problems created by maintaining incompatible versions of the OS for the two devices. Since you are apparently unwilling to change that decision, we can only hope that you won't do this again with the release of your next product.
Can you give us an idea of how long the N800 will be supported by major OS updates? Do you plan to make IT OS 2008 work on this device? 2009?
As you know, our enthusiasm and our concerns are due to the fact that these tablets really are revolutionary products. We just don't want arbitrarily imposed software limitations to prevent them from living up to their full potential.
Ari says "And really, let's take an example so you can understand us better: N800 is faster and has more memory than 770. Yet we struggle to make Flash player work perfectly on it. On 770 it would be even more difficult."
This is a great example of missing the point completely, and I would say intentionally. Stop trying to confuse the issue! Everyone understands you can't magically make the 770 have better hardware, and most people understand that running a significantly newer version of Flash was unlikely. That is what is to be expected with proprietary garbage software like Flash.
The point is, people obviously did expect that the OSSO software (according to maemo.org OSSO is Nokia's Open Source Software Operations) was going to keep improving. And to see that it is improving, but Nokia wants us to buy a new device to run the new versions, leaves a very bad taste in our mouths.
I have no trouble believing that there are valid reasons (hardware, and legal) for not running the new Flash and Opera on 770. But I don't believe there is any reason (except to sell more N800s) for not running the vast majority of the other software. This useless "hacker edition" really just goes to prove that is the case.
What a huge disappointment!
Dear anonymous, the last mr anonymous, I mean,
Thank you for your stong comment!
Now I'll stop at least for the weekend to respond ;-) -- but I gotta answer to you ... without those new proprietary components, it would be impossible to deliver a "consumer version" of the software. I hope the "hacker edition" will be just what you described! Let's see if we can make it, and anyway we are trying.
Fuck it.
No more nokia products for me, ever.
Imho, involvment with open-source and related projects/products is like a love story.
Now, with all this it's more like a hate one with nokia.
I won't buy a n800 to find the same thing happens to me one again in one year.
I hope the OpenMoko will be a cool device, as I'm going to buy it to trow out my 770.
actions speak for themselves . Now it is time for Nokia to show their true commitment to further develop 770- a peliminary roadmap of taking care of the bugs would be a nice start.
I just wanted to say that I appreciate the commitment to opensource that nokia has, and I'm sure it's the right way to go!
I feel bad when I see all this angry users, when you just try to do the best for everybody,( I hope :) ). But I partly understand them; everyone just want to have the latest 'blink' on there device.
It's like with ubuntu; When a new version comes out, everybody do the upgrade. Not only new computers, also the very old ones, and they also try to make the best for the old ones.
So maybe you should consider for the next release to make just one version of the core compontents(the opensource part) and then just add the closed source parts; and brand it IT2007-N800 and IT2007-770.
I think it's easier to maintain, because you only have to debug one version. Debian/ubuntu people handle different platforms; they compile it for i386 and AMD64, with the right optimalisation for each platform?
Ari,
Thanks for all of your work and thanks to the whole whole Nokia OSSO team.
I bought the 770 almost a year ago, and I found it to be dissapointing in many usability respects. but also to show a lot of promise.
And I was right. It keeps getting better.
As you look for where to improve the user experience please read this review from an Apple Newton third party developer (if you haven't already). http://cs.gmu.edu/~sean/stuff/n800/
I look forward to using a N800, which looks like it fixes most of the hardware problems that were complained about when the 770 came out, but I won't buy one until someone comes up with a work around for youtube and other internet based video.
But I do plan on buying a N800 and buying its successor as well. This is coming from a dyed in the wool Apple fanatic. Whatever you've done, I've drunk the coolaid.
Thank you Ari for your comment on the multimedia aspect of the device. Just wanted to be clear, that while I am disapointed in its current capabilities, I am very happy with the browsing experience, as well as the gizmo and gtalk applications.
I hope I'm not wrong in saying I think the N800 has a lot of potential, and that having to move forward with replacing older hardware will always bring about grumpy users. People seem to expect a capital driven company to provide free updates for years and years and that just isn't feasable. If you want to put money into the Maemo crew's pocket so they can develop the platform and move forward, you do that by buying their newer products. I'd expect that after a few hardware revisions, Nokia will have the platform portable enough to move between models more easily.
So again, thanks for running this blog and letting us know whats going on! (PS. Improve the video playback, lol)
Here's an idea.
What about an upgrade path for 770 users to the N800 in the form of a price discount for the N800?
I just bought my 770 in November, directly from Nokia. I love it. It's a great little gadget and has potential.
But I'm also feeling a little burned and worried now about its future.
Obviously, that's the price one pays when one likes gadgets. A new version is always around the corner.
I do take issue with the previous comment that a new version was common knowledge out there when I bought my 770. Rumors on new versions of hardware are often that, rumors, and I wasn't seeing a lot of factual evidence on the blogs I haunt. I had researched the 770 for two months before purchasing the gadget. It could be I wasn't reading the right blogs, too. ;)
But even the Nokia site -- and the sales reps I spoke to -- didn't mention a new version was on the way. Why would Nokia discourage sales?
Obviously, we can debate whether or not electronics makers have a responsibility to let consumers know that a new version is about to be released. That's not how the industry works, many will say.
That means it is an opportunity for Nokia to be a leader.
My impression is that Nokia is trying to do something interesting with open source development and a community of users. They wish to build a community of tablet users and keep them happy. A happy community creates cool open source projects and helps grow the platform.
Perhaps Nokia will seize that opportunity and reach out to those passing on the N800 because they have a 770.
It might even earn the company some more revenue.
Ari,
Your approach to 770 case seems to be misled. Many of us understand it may not be possible to have a newer version of flash on the device, but this is no excuse that there won't be Javascript, Ajax .. etc support on the browser. At least the brower should be capable of what minimo can do with its alpha version!
Also I newer understand why you guys don't put most of your development efforts to code your own browser (possible minimo based)
since the core software for this product is the browser and as long as you keep it 3rd party you will stay restricted.
@Scott: Giving 770-users a discount for the N800 is not The Right Thing (tm) to do. If you read the forums, mailing-lists and blogs, you'll know: Many 770-owners wouldn't want to trade their 770 for a N800. They either feel the N800 is inferior in some very basic things (hardware buttons, hard cover) or simply doesn't look as good as the 770 - or both. This includes me: I will keep my 770 until a similiar device based on free software will be available, no matter if it's from Nokia or some other manufacturer. Until then, I hope I get at least the updates promised for the 770 (like SIP support in the existing instant messaging framework).
Let see what people want:
http://www.internettablettalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=4368
When version 3.0 of the PalmOS was introduced, incremental upgrades occurred with the release of versions 3.1, 3.3, and 3.5, adding support for color, multiple expansion ports, new processors, and other various additions.
PalmOS version 4.0 was released with the m500 series, and later made available as an upgrade for older devices. This added a standard interface for external filesystem access (such as SD cards) and improved telephony libraries, security, and the UI. Version 4.1 included a series of bug fixes.
Ari,
Thanks for the great work, and a very informing blog.
As mentioned in some previous comments that OS2006 addressed some issues, but there are other more critical ones such as providing basic features like cron. Is there any plan to provide these functionalities in future releases?
Thanks Ari and the team. N770 now seems to work in WLAN WPA networks without constant reboots with the new software!
Let's wish you'll be able to get Opera to pull their act together to fix bug#743 too.
That ITT poll must be a joke! It is missing the most obvious option: Release (all the non-proprietary parts, at least) of ITOS2007 for 770 in a consumer-ready image, and begin shipping new 770s with it pre-installed (if they're really going to continue to be manufactured). Communicate the decision to do this this ASAP, and then do it ASAP. And then, stop wasting time on ITOS2006!
Anything less than this (eg, the 'hacker edition') will massively fragment development: Many new apps will eventually be released for N800 only, solely because their developers have only the N800 and can't be bothered to install two development environments. And why should they? It is absurd.
Obviously I don't think Nokia doesn't realize this, but some readers do not.
So, please understand, it isn't just some meaningless new features in ITOS2007 that we expected to have on 770 - the really important thing is ability to run future applications developed for the "platform". The way Nokia is going about this seems like a transparent ploy to share with 3rd party developers the unfortunate task of causing the 770 to feel "obsolete", for the purpose of selling more N800s. "Oh, that new program isn't available for 770, unless you flash your device with the "hacker edition" which is less stable than ITOS2006? Perhaps you should buy an N800..."
Note that this is coming from someone who liked his 770 so much that he bought two N800s on Jan 6 before they were officially released, and intended to release hildonzed software in the future. Luckily, my software is written in Python and was of course always meant to be run on many platforms. Needless to say, I am extremely disappointed with Nokia, and spending time on the Maemo platform is no longer a priority for me.
I don't see what you people gain by flaming the one person who is trying to help your cause. Keep doing it and he'll go away.
And instead of complaining about the proprietary Opera browser missing some cool new features, why don't you create an open source replacement that uses Gecko or KHTML?
Nobody is blaming Ari here,
We are all well aware that he is the one on our side (aren't we). We are questioning the Nokia's attitude and decisions, and sometimes the tone gets a little bit agressive but that is against the corporation not Ari or the great OSSO team ;)
We question the idea of open source when it is not really open, we question the idea of creating a community and then dividing it into two by non-backcompatibility, we question the idea of an internet tablet with a browser that is not capable of displaying half of the most frequently visited web sites, we question no being able to use a bluetooth headset even though we can VOIP, we question no support for USB hosts, we question dropping one of the most appreciated features of 770 (the hardcover) in N800, we question why we haven't seen a bugfree OS yet and if we eventually will.
I believe these are all valid concerns for us as customers, deveopers, advertisors and part of the community, and Nokia needs to listen to us if they really believe in future of this platform.
It's good to hear in plain words that the 770 will continue to be supported.
BUT, in what sense? You do mention that Nokia is trying to find a better way to utilize Mozilla (which is a POS to begin with), but in the mean time, in line with other comments, how about actually addressing some of these outstanding bugs? And, no, "sent upstream" is not helpful. At least not when it sits dormant after that. And when you DO release new versions, something more than 2 lines re: WLAN changes in the release notes, when the package comparisons show a plethora of changes, would be helpful.
We're obviously willing to track down bugs and report them so they can be addressed. If we knew that one particular subsection of the system has been tinkered with, we might know that a bug has been fixed w/o Nokia realizing it, and we can close out some outstanding bugs. You can't provide total transparency in what's upcoming on the 800, which is fine. But releasing a better document of what HAS been changed isn't giving away any IP.
Ari
Faulty web cams (yes, even brand new units so problem only caught recently) and constant reboots that can't be fixed by flashing are *rife* among N800 owners.
If there Nokia QA did their job on these units prior to CES, can I suggest you hire a new QA team?
Check Internet Tablet Talk for details, but people are returning N800s multiple times because of the reboot issues, and have tested several N800s in store to find they all have the webcam defect.
This isn't good enough. The webcam issues are apparently now resolved on the production line, which leaves the severe reboot issues. Please post a message indicating you are aware of this problem and a end-user solution is possible. These devices seem to be WAY too fragile for Joe Public and will lead to the N800 gaining a terrible reputation due to poor reliability - your returns will go through the roof, sales through the floor and all because of poor Nokia QA.
Or was it the rush to get it out at CES? Please don't do that again, particularly if Apple steal your thunder by launching a device which apparently reinvents your core market! ;)
I must disagree somewhat with the previous poster. A few people have reported lots of problems with fatal reboots like you describe, but the same few individuals are the ones that seem to run into the same problem again and again. There's probably some weakness in the flashing util or some such, but the vast majority of N800 owners are not running into this (or indeed they don't see any need of reflashing). As for the webcam problem, what was reported on ITT was that _one_ user found that the _one_ unit he tested in the shop (after returning his unit for a webcam problem) also had the problem. The other reports are single item reports. This can hardly be called valid evidence for a major problem.
Again, the N800 appears to be a generally solid product that works well for almost everyone, and so far there hasn't been a single "white screen of death" report of the type that affected some 770 units, for example.
Tor
I think you downplay the serious nature of these two issues.
Several posters on ITT are claiming they have faulty web cams, I have a faulty web cam (I have two N800s - one OK, one not), and there are now posts in the newsgroup referring to faulty web cams on brand new developer devices (my faulty N800 is a dev device from Belgium). Apparently Nokia found and fixed the faulty web cam yet brand new devices are still shipping with the defect.
The point about the reboot loops is that they happen FAR too easily. Long time 770 users who never had a problem with the 770 are now trashing N800s with ease. Several other users are trashing their N800s and getting refunds and bad mouthing the N800. In bugzilla there's a second bug listed against endlessly rebooting N800s (#999 joins #957), this is affecting quite a few users who appear to be doing nothing wrong to cause the loop.
Just wait until a reviewer gets to review a device with both problems - oh joy! :(
As for us poor users who have handed over cash for these devices, we're left to return them to CompUSA etc., but hey - at least we can be thankful there is no white-screen-of-death this time around! ;)
Why Nokia N770, N800 is not on sale in Russia? :(
We're here in Russia are waiting so long for these devices.Please, take a look!Here in Moscow broadband is almost everywhere and wi-fi appears fast.Maybe it is a good idea to enter our market too?Don't let M$ Window$ Mobile to take market in one face!Additionally here in Russia there is a lots of Linux fans and developers which can help in platform development.It is strange and stupid to ignore them.
Yes, incase the architects and managers at NOKIA haven't gotten the message - this type of device requires a stable software platform which can be incrementally improved overtime while remaining backwards compatible with older software binaries. The key to developing a platform is having software that will run, as is, from one hardware release to the next. If you must switch Chipsets the then you build in a translation layer for ARM binaries... its all about software.
Perhaps Maemo is just some test bed RND project for you guys since Symbian appears to have many internal "eccentricities" which make it relatively lame (i.e. error handling mech, threading, etc.). Now you have to figure out how to crank out a new OS and higher abstraction layer development platform - so, you decide to play with debian and gnome and some hardware... and get your RND paid for by a gullible consumer market / Linux community.
The Maemo "platform" / 770 / N800 is showing itself to be an under architected, myopic, hacked together, ill-planned, consumer and landfill waste device. I am going to return my memory leaking random rebooting brick to Nokia Europe and I hope the waste recycling fees and green taxes for the company is equivalent to to original production cost in euros.
I am not paying to be your potential QC department, developer, and consumer survey person anymore...
Thanks but no thanks.
Ari, Thanks very much for all the hard work from you and your team. Clearly some people are not 100% happy, but I figure universal happiness has to come from something more than just a very very cool device with OS development- perhaps these people have bigger issues!
I'm very excited by developments in Maemo- for a few months now I have found the software repositories to be a little flakey in accessing new releases, and I'm hoping to have more luck with the new approach to distribution.
I hope the 770 is going to keep on going to- I'm in touch with the CICT at Danish Technical University, and I really hope they use their 100 machines to good effect there! Ideally these guys would be totally tied into the bugzilla instal, and usin Maemo to manage their projects, but I guess the educational environment might constrain that.
Ari, the N800 will defintely get better, and more internet services will be supported. However, as an N800 user, it's not easy to know what Internet services are available. Maybe Nokia should be more active in promoting Internet services/websites that are N800 friendly. For example, I came across this free online Flash game website http://www.gamoku.com made for mobile devices such as the N800 in one of the comments in your blog. The website shows the potential of N800 as an online gaming mobile platform. I bet N800 users/potential users would be happy to know about such a website.
Hi Ari,
Thank you for taking time out to maintain an informative blog.
I would like the ability to be able to try new Java API outside of the phone development cycle. I wonder if supporting Java ME (CLDC) in a future Nxx is a reasonable request ? with Nokia leading many JSR specifications, perhaps the Linux based N-series would make a useful early access environment for reference implementations.
Thanks,
/Tom
Hi Ari,
Where can one reach you to write a private message?. I mean... I was unable to find an e-mail link in your blog.
I'm a freelance journalist, working for the UK based IT news site The Inquirer -www.theinquirer.net- and I have some information that you might find interesting, about Nokia's attitute towards the 770 and why some perceptions need to be changed, IMHO.
So where do I write? Can you write me?. My e-mail address can be found by clicking on my blogger profile.
Thanks
Fernando
Buenos Aires, Argentina
Could you confirm or deny that the next software version for N800 will have SDHC support? And if yes, when do you plan to release it? :-)
Fernando - Nokia email addresses are usually firstname.lastname at nokia.com. Might be worth a shot! :)
Failing that, you might want to contact the blogger Thoughtfix (aka Daniel) as Daniel is, I believe, in direct contact with Dr Jaaksi and may be able to pass on your message.
Thoughtfix blog post where Daniel states he is in email contact with Dr. Jaaksi.
Best of luck, I hope you will bring more insight to the Internet Tablet platform than most tech sites appear to have done so far.
While the Internet Tablet is not perfect, and the current firmware for the N800 is flakey and far from complete, it will improve substantially if the experience gained from the 770 is anything to go by (and that's not to say the 770 is perfect, it's not!)
More documentation and knowledge about unused N800/OMAP2420 hardware (IVA video accelerated encoding/decoding and Power VR MBX 2D/3D acceleration) would really help the development of killer applications. The OMAP DSP is not publicly documented and developers have been asking Nokia for such documentation since the 770 arrived. Nokia is holding back the community in several key areas, unfortunately.
Nokias reliance on Opera is also very odd/misguided. They could have assisted with the development of Minimo (Firefox for mobile devices) for little cost but seemingly did not, and now Minimo development has come to a halt. In December, DougT (the only Minimo core developer) announced that the Mozilla Foundation have changed tack and no longer see a future for Minimo on mobile phone devices - development has now ceased. Oddly, Nokia paid the Mozilla Foundation several million dollars in 2004 apparently to seed Minimo development. Alternatively, lets see the S60 browser ported to Linux/Internet Tablet.
I look forward to any future articles you may publish on the IT platform. :)
I love the work you guys did on the N800. One of the things that attracts me so much to it is the good battery life.
So as you evaluate designs for future revisions, please don't sacrifice battery life for speed!
Nice blog.
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One Anonymous poster said:
"Faulty web cams (yes, even brand new units so problem only caught recently) and constant reboots that can't be fixed by flashing are *rife* among N800 owners.
If there Nokia QA did their job on these units prior to CES, can I suggest you hire a new QA team?"
I had to swallow hard and breathe deeply before replying to this.
There were factors involved in the webcam issue which will not be revealed to the general public. Suffice to say that final assembly QA did their absolute best under the circumstances to reduce the number of defective webcams getting into the wild. It is unfortunate that some still managed to escape but that was beyond their control.
But you are getting your wish: all of final assembly QA is being laid off due to the closure of the Alliance facility. Your only problem afterward will be in dealing with the consequences of what you asked for.
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The majority of "J-O-B-S" that I have ever worked, I been fired from. I have never been really good at
working for somebody else. I guess one of the main reasons would be that they knew I was humble. Or maybe they
feared me being so intelligent that I would possibly take over the company or something.
They would say stuff to me like "your not being productive enough" or "we need
to talk about your work ethics". It had been times where I wanted to literally laugh in there face! Why? Well, one reason
would be...........................................
1. I have been commented on my "work performance" so much that it would feel strange NOT to be questioned about my work ethic.
2. What benefit will it be to me if I worked "twice as hard" and doubling my workload for still the same pay rate???
3. If I was to get a raise on a "J-O-B", it wouldn't be much because most "J-O-B-S" only give a person cents on the dollar.
4. In life, if I work hard at something, I would rather "bust-my-hump" doing something I love to do rather than wasting my time doing something to make another man richer!
A lot of people won't tell you these things because there "scared" that they may get laid off or have someone think
differently about them. But as for me, I'm my own individual. I'm taking the gloves off! I'm taking a stand to let any individual that feels
like there isn't hope, know that if I can be successful, so can you! Hear my clear, "The only way to truly be happy in life and be successful
is to do what interest you"! Find your niche. Get out and explore new things and opportunites. Find something that you love to do and pursue it.
"NEVER, EVER, EVER, GIVE UP". This is one of the formulas of success! I've always looked at things in clear view in terms of business and personal
finance.
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The road was never easy for me but if there are people out there that have overcame hardships ten times as worst as mine, then this should be
a piece of cake for me! That's how I've always looked at it. This is the game of life. Just because a person starts ahead in the race doesn't mean that he
will always finish first. Statistics show that just about every person who is "self made" had to start from the "bottom of the barrel" and "work there way up the ladder". You can too. Being successful and become a shining star in life is not going to be easy "BUT" it isn't impossible either......................................
This has been my true story that I felt I should share with the world..........................................................................
"A Person Never Understands The Sun, Until They've Came Through Rain"........................................Carael Knight
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Nice blog. Keep it up!
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I am interested in this situation that we find ourselves in. I simply bought the 770 on a whim the other day. I was checking ebay out and this little electronic joy feel into my lap. Having been a real affectionado of hand held gadgets, I just had to have it. Now I had the vision of using it to mainly keep tabs of my facebook and email.
But unfortunatly I have not even been able to log into facebook. It keeps crashing. My guess is that the 770 is not up to the task.
So I question the wisdom of trying to shoehorn a bloated OS on a tiny chipset.
Maybe we need to move away from Linux, and go for a smoother less sytem hungry OS. No bells or whistles. Think of the PSP, IPhone, N95 and Palm os. All worked very well and did not crash.
I am a big fan of my N95 and its Symbian OS, so I am a little biased. But it may be food for thought.
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