A few thoughs based on your feedback
Some time ago I asked you comments about openness. You sent me some interesting links. Thanks! I try to summarize your comments a bit.
Rights vs. executing the rights
Joel explained the idea of community openness by using three different characteristics:
1) the IP (right to use),
2) the development (right to influence the direction of the code) and
3) the governance (right to make decisions like who's in charge).
Then, Andreas talks about comparing and constracting community models by two axes:
- governance model
- license type used.
Both Andreas and Joel seem to have similar ideas, and I think they both have very good characterizations. But, in addition to these, I'd like to add an other dimension. The three elements above talk about the rights. In addition to the rights I'd like to think about the reality; i.e. is anybody really using these rights. And if not, why not.
Let me give you an example. Suppose I start on open source project and put my stuff into the sourceforge under GPL. I then invite others to discuss and influence the direction of the code I'm developing. And invite them to contribute. I also say that any time somebody suggest to change the leader, I'm ready to step down if somebody else gets a majority vote. So now, in Joel's three dimension model presented above, this would be very open, eh?
But what if nobody shows up? What if nobody is interested in my project and I'm left alone to develop it. Or if somebody just takes bits of my code and uses them elsewere inside another project. Is my project then open? I theory it is, but really? I'd claim that the project is open only if people use their rights, show up and contribute, and thus make it open. To me open source is more about "doing it" -- less about theory or human rights. So, to make the project open I also need to get others involved.
Another interesting aspect by Joel was his study on corporate sponsored open source projects. Check this one out!
Other comments
A good summary of different projects was provided by Smancke. He compares different projects in terms of their openness.
Jaffa gives us some ideas and opinions on how to continue with maemo. He talks about the community involvment, openness and control. He says "Nokia need to take action to really push community involvement. Nothing's got for free: if Nokia aren't seen to be committed to the community, why should the community be committed to Nokia?" Good points, Jaffa!
Usability
Then last but not least, David opened up a discussion on usability and open source. He refered at a good article by Matthew Paul Thomas. An interesting topic that needs attention. While talking to different people, I hear a lot of similar concerns and discussions.
Thanks!
Rights vs. executing the rights
Joel explained the idea of community openness by using three different characteristics:
1) the IP (right to use),
2) the development (right to influence the direction of the code) and
3) the governance (right to make decisions like who's in charge).
Then, Andreas talks about comparing and constracting community models by two axes:
- governance model
- license type used.
Both Andreas and Joel seem to have similar ideas, and I think they both have very good characterizations. But, in addition to these, I'd like to add an other dimension. The three elements above talk about the rights. In addition to the rights I'd like to think about the reality; i.e. is anybody really using these rights. And if not, why not.
Let me give you an example. Suppose I start on open source project and put my stuff into the sourceforge under GPL. I then invite others to discuss and influence the direction of the code I'm developing. And invite them to contribute. I also say that any time somebody suggest to change the leader, I'm ready to step down if somebody else gets a majority vote. So now, in Joel's three dimension model presented above, this would be very open, eh?
But what if nobody shows up? What if nobody is interested in my project and I'm left alone to develop it. Or if somebody just takes bits of my code and uses them elsewere inside another project. Is my project then open? I theory it is, but really? I'd claim that the project is open only if people use their rights, show up and contribute, and thus make it open. To me open source is more about "doing it" -- less about theory or human rights. So, to make the project open I also need to get others involved.
Another interesting aspect by Joel was his study on corporate sponsored open source projects. Check this one out!
Other comments
A good summary of different projects was provided by Smancke. He compares different projects in terms of their openness.
Jaffa gives us some ideas and opinions on how to continue with maemo. He talks about the community involvment, openness and control. He says "Nokia need to take action to really push community involvement. Nothing's got for free: if Nokia aren't seen to be committed to the community, why should the community be committed to Nokia?" Good points, Jaffa!
Usability
Then last but not least, David opened up a discussion on usability and open source. He refered at a good article by Matthew Paul Thomas. An interesting topic that needs attention. While talking to different people, I hear a lot of similar concerns and discussions.
Thanks!
posted by Ari Jaaksi at 12:20 PM
7 Comments:
with all due respect, it seems to me that the maemo project is headed towards the same end as UIQ (and I'm not referring to the roadmap :-) ). I hope the general feeling in Nokia users is not the same as mine: just disappointment and a lower perception of Nokia brand value (fyi, I bought a very expensive N810)
@reda_ek: the Maemo Summit last month in Berlin has really energised the community.
The talk of Maemo 5 - and the time, Ari kindly gave some us at a very nice Japanese meal (thanks again, Ari) - have really given a lot of people a lot of hope: the next release (and any device using it) really could be fantastic.
Ari,
You should also check out a recent HBR article on user contribution mechanisms - which explains what open source has in common with eBay, Wikipedia and Amazon.
http://harvardbusinessreview.com/hbsp/hbr/articles/article.jsp?ml_action=get-article&articleID=R0810C&ml_issueid=null&ml_subscriber=true&pageNumber=1&_requestid=62770
It reiterates the practical benefits of open source, i.e. user contribution. Like you write, the license is less important than how people are using the license and accessing/contributing to the code.
Andreas
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